Here is my attempt to give these life loving people a truer picture of where to really put their votes,and why:
Abortion:According to John McCain's own web sight,he basically wants to do next to nothing to stop abortion.John McCain's stance on abortion is a smoke screen.
Sure,he claims that he would appoint judges that would overturn 'Roe vs. Wade',but,at the same time he is saying that he will not appoint judges that 'legislate' from the bench.He wants the individual states to decide.
But,according to John McCain's own health care plan,this state by state abortion decision would be rendered null and void.John McCain's plan would enable anyone to cross state lines for medical procedures.
Anyone who lived in a state that banned abortion would still have the choice of simply going to a neighboring,more liberal,state to get one.
If this is not enough,even the 'Republican Platform' takes a (though veiled) pro-choice stance.You decide.With wording like:'We all have a moral obligation to assist, not to penalize, women struggling with the challenges of an unplanned pregnancy.' And,absolutely no language stating that they believe that cases of 'rape,incest and mother's health' are NOT cases for abortion,the Republican Platform does not vary much from the Democrat's belief on a woman's right to choose.
No penalty/moral obligation to assist....As Lou Costello used to say in the famous,'Whose On First' skit:"Same as you!Same as you."
Being very little difference on the subject-except the Obama campaign is more honest on their stance-you have to ask why the McCain/Palin team would try to trick their constituents in believing they are for something when in reality they are not?
This question,in itself,tells allot about how far a politician is willing to go to get elected.
I wonder:If McCain is willing to 'Mis'-lead on this all important subject,what else is he lying to us about?On what other issues is he willing to bend or break the truth to get us into a war or economical disaster?
John McCain asks us to trust that he will lead us.Based on his abortion stance...I don't trust him at all.
VOTE OBAMA
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This of course is completely false.
See http://www.lifenews.com/nat4489.html
McCain isn't as outspoken as past presidential candidates, but his record speaks volumes.
The most clear-cut vote on abortion came in March 2003 when McCain voted against a Senate resolution endorsing the Roe v. Wade decision.
The Supreme Court ruling, which McCain has called a flawed decision and one that should be overturned, allowed virtually unlimited abortions throughout pregnancy for any reason.
Unlike Obama, who opposes the ban, McCain voted repeatedly for the partial-birth abortion ban over the years and, in 2003, opposed all pro-abortion amendments to weaken the bill that eventually became national law and was upheld by the Supreme Court.
McCain has also compiled a strong record over the years of opposing taxpayer funding of abortions in various situations.
As recently as April 2005, and several times before that, McCain opposed an attempt to send taxpayer money to groups that perform or promote abortions in other nations. This anti-funding rule, known as the Mexico City Policy, is expected to be one of the first to be removed under a potential Obama administration as he has voted to scrap it.
During his tenure in the House and Senate, McCain has also voted against taxpayer funding of abortion at military hospitals, in the District of Columbia, in the federal employee's health insurance plan, on Indian reservations and has supported the Hyde Amendment to ban direct abortion funding in almost all cases.
Senator McCain has also established a strong position supporting parental involvement on abortions -- by repeatedly voting for bills to respect consent and notification laws.
In July 2006 and again in September 2006, McCain voted for Congressional bills to make it a crime to take minor girls to another state for a secret abortion that violates the consent or notification laws of her home state. In both cases, Obama voted against the laws to uphold parental involvement and knowledge of when their daughter is considering an abortion.
In August, 2007 McCain voted for an amendment to the State Children's Health Insurance Program to cover pregnant women and their unborn children.
Under a Bush administration proposal, states have the option of extending that coverage to unborn children -- which automatically qualifies pregnant women for coverage as well during their pregnancy.
Because this is an administrative rule and could be changed by a future president, like Obama, Senator Wayne Allard of Colorado offered an amendment earlier this year to put the rule in existing law and make helping pregnant women and children permanent.
The Allard Amendment would have written explicit language into the SCHIP statute to guarantee coverage for women and children and McCain supported it.
The vote on the SCHIP amendment came after another pro-woman vote for the Unborn Victims of Violence Act.
The measure, sparked by the deaths of Laci and Conner Peterson, allows prosecutors to hold criminals responsible for two crimes, instead of just one, when they kill or injure both mother and child in a violent attack. Without the law, assailants would not be held culpable for the death of or injury to the baby.
You are talking the old McCain...
...the pre-presidential candidate.
I stand by the links to both the McCain/Palin websight and the Republican platform.
They are Mccain's most current stands
It is just terribly sad that in the economic times we are having, a war still going on, and the problems with health care and the under and non insured, that the abortion issue still has to come up. People eventually still start waving the banner of the unborn etc. etc.
McCain would make some very scary appointments to the bench in his bid to overturn Woe v. Wade, that much we know, but this argument is just grasping for straws.
If such "God fearing Christians" can only base their candidate judgment on that one issue then maybe they ought to not be voting. They are a scary group indeed.
Like Esteban has said, "The vote of the stupid people counts as much as mine".
Dharma,I know that you think very little of Christians,but belittling people because they only vote based on one isssue,belittles you more than the people you belittle.Your harsh sense of judgement makes you seem narrow minded,bigoted,and stupid.
The point of my post was to make people see how unimportant the abortion issue is in the election because some people can't see beyond what 'they' consider the death of innocents.
Make fun of them if you want to.But your bitterness and hateful tongue,in my eyes,lessens you.And that breaks my heart.
Drew,
Your mind set is "in tune" with the Christian side that you can not separate yourself. My argument is that if they are only choosing to vote for someone based upon that issue alone then they are truly sad and should not vote at all. If they only look at the issue of the unborn and make that their rallying cry, I wish they would just stay home.
My problem with Christians, as they are self titled, is that they use hot button issues , or just rally about things that tend to divide, rather than join. Say one thing yet hypocritically do another.
I see it all the time. Remember I have attend many varieties of "organized religious" meetings. Many of those same"honest good Christians" come in to the coffee shop and are some of the rudest, nastiest people. Coming after church even. Sunday is the worst day to work!
Yes, I am sure there are some nice folks out there, probably like yourself, who are good people who believe etc., but like always it is the few hypocrits that make it look bad for all of you.
In my eyes the abortion issue is always an unimportant issue. I wish that they would just leave it alone. Why not try and work on some of the other things that are tearing the counrty and world apart.
Hi,Dharma,
so...because an issue is unimportant to you/that makes it an unimportant issue period?!?
Come on,Dharma,get off your high(and mighty)horse.
I know you hate most Christians because you hold them to some higher standard than the rest of mankind
and yes,none of them are perfect
but this isn't about that.Is it?!?
Because you are sounding just as smug and arrogent as some of these religious folks do...
..so how does that make your stance any different than theirs?
Who are you to preach to someone how to vote?
You are an American citizen,that's who.We each have freedom of speech.
So hate all you want
it just deminishes you,that's all
and I have always admired,and loved and valued you...
so you know I am not saying this to be mean
Drew,
I value your opinions, and although I do not consider abortion to be a defining issue regarding for whom I shall vote, I will not vote for anyone I cannot trust.
If you cannot trust McCain, then that's a good endorsement for Obama as far as I'm concerned.
Mixter
Hello.Mixter,good hearing from you.I value your opinion,too:-)I already voted last Saturday.It was a rush.It felt good to cast my ballot.
Abortion is a defining issue for a good many people...my dad including.he is a life long deomcrat and Catholic.Abortion for him and many many pro-life people is the issue that makes or breaks a candidate.Everything else can be tolerated.
I was just trying to show how McCain has used this issue when his campaign and his party's platform say different
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